{"id":3198,"date":"2011-01-23T13:06:08","date_gmt":"2011-01-23T13:06:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.urban75.org\/blog\/?p=3198"},"modified":"2011-01-23T13:20:24","modified_gmt":"2011-01-23T13:20:24","slug":"the-bromley-arms-cleveland-st-nw1-and-the-case-of-the-bad-shilling","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.urban75.org\/blog\/the-bromley-arms-cleveland-st-nw1-and-the-case-of-the-bad-shilling\/","title":{"rendered":"The Bromley Arms, Cleveland St NW1 and the case of the bad shilling"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Rather cruelly dismissed as a “late building of no interest,” in \u00a0the Survey of London: volume 21<\/a> (1949), the Bromley Arms used to be at 84 Cleveland Street (corner of Grafton Way) London, W1T 6NG.<\/p>\n

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Still proudly sporting\u00a0its Charrington’s\u00a0heritage but now, alas, no longer serving up beers to the local\u00a0community, the pub closed several years ago.<\/p>\n

\"Lost<\/p>\n

The remains of the pub sign.<\/em><\/p>\n

The case of the bad shilling<\/strong><\/p>\n

Trawling the\u00a0web\u00a0I was unable to find much information about the pub, although there is a court account from 1868, where a nineteen year old called Susan Phillips was sentenced to twelve months’ imprisonment for “Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin”.<\/p>\n

Here’s the full case, as\u00a0recorded\u00a0in the Old Bailey Proceedings <\/a>of 6th January 1868.<\/p>\n

120. SUSAN PHILLIPS (19,) Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.<\/strong><\/p>\n

MR. STRAIGHT<\/strong> conducted the Prosecution.<\/p>\n

ANNIE WARREN<\/strong> . I am barmaid at the Waterloo Arms, High Street, Marylebone\u2014on 21st November I served the prisoner with a half-quartern of gin, it came to 2\u00bdd.\u2014she gave me a bad shilling, which I afterwards gave to Donovan\u2014I told her it was bad\u2014she said that she wondered where she took it from.
\nPrisoner. It was not me who gave you the bad shilling, it was the person who was with me. Witness. I took it from you, the other woman put down 2d., which was not enough, and then you paid\u2014I gave you both in custody.<\/p>\n

JOHN DONOVAN<\/strong> (Policeman 174 A). On 21st November the last witness gave the prisoner and another woman into my custody with this bad shilling (produced)\u2014they were charged at the police-court and discharged\u2014the prisoner gave her name Susan Brown.<\/p>\n

WILLIAM BAYLET <\/strong>. I am barman at the Bromley Arms, Cleveland Street, Fitzroy Square<\/strong>\u2014on 11th December, between three and four o’clock, I served the prisoner with a half-quartern of gin, which came to 2\u00bcd.\u2014she gave me a bad shilling\u2014I bent it, and said, “Are you aware this is a\u00a0bad one?”\u2014she said, “Is it?”\u2014I said, “Yes”\u2014she took it up and paid with a good sixpence\u2014next day, about twelve o’clock, she came again, and I saw Mrs. Marshall serve her with a half-quartern of gin\u2014she paid with a shilling, got the change, and left\u2014I spoke to my mistress, who looked at the shilling, found it was bad, and put it by itself at the back of a shelf\u2014I gave it to Mr. Cook, the manager, half an hour afterwards\u2014about a quarter-past two the same day the prisoner came again, and I served her with a half-quartern of gin\u2014she gave me a bad shilling, which I gave to Mr. Cook, and asked her in his presence how many she had got of those\u2014she made no reply, and was given in custody.<\/p>\n

Prisoner.<\/strong> I was not there the day before, nor yet in the morning\u2014you put the shilling into the till, and then took it out and gave it to the master.<\/p>\n

Witness.<\/strong> I did not.<\/p>\n

JANE ANN MARSHALL<\/strong> . I am a widow, and keep the Bromley Arms, Cleveland Street\u2014Mr. Cook is my manager\u2014on 12th December, about a quarter to twelve, the prisoner came in for a half-quartern of gin and gave me a shilling\u2014I looked at it, in consequence of what Bayley said, found it was bad, and put it on a shelf by itself.<\/p>\n

BENJAMIN COOK<\/strong> . I am Mrs. Marshall’s manager\u2014on 12th December Bayley gave me a bad staling, which he took from a shelf\u2014I received another bad shilling from him in the afternoon, in the prisoner’s presence\u2014the prisoner had tried to pass a bad shilling on me three weeks before, which I gave back to her.<\/p>\n

ISAAC BUTCHER<\/strong> (Policeman 43 F). On 12th December I took the prisoner, and received these two bad shillings from Mr. Cook\u2014she said that she only passed the one at a quarter-past two\u2014the female prosecutor said in the prisoner’s presence that she had searched her and found 1s. 2d. in silver and 4d. in copper, and that she believed she had searched her three weeks previously.<\/p>\n

WILLIAM WEBSTER<\/strong> . These three shillings are bad.<\/p>\n

GUILTY .*\u2014 Twelve Months’ Imprisonment .<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Mind you, if you think that’s harsh, on the same page can be found the story of a 21 year old John Eday found guilty of “Stealing a handkerchief from a person unknown,” and\u00a0getting\u00a0no less than ‘Seven Years’ Penal Servitude’ for his troubles.<\/p>\n

Ouch!<\/p>\n

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Tile and etched window detail<\/em><\/p>\n

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Did you ever go the pub? Got any stories? Add a comment below!<\/p>\n

Photo feature: Lost pubs of Brixton<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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